How long until we get 3 row trucks?

"MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s" (mastermario) 08/23/2017 at 15:36 • Filed to: Truck Yeah

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I saw a megacab ram around the other day and it had me thinking about how much room there is behind that door. I mean if ram added another 4" to the cab you could have a half door like the extended cab pickups and get another row of seats for when you need it*.

I doubt it happens, but if it did I bet they could still sell it even if it had a 4' bed. I wouldn’t even be surprised if it happened.

*You don’t need it. Even if you have 7 kids you don’t need it, just get a van (and maybe wrap it up once in a while)

Edit: I should have been more clear. I know there are custom ones out there already, I was just thinking if we’d ever see these from the OEMs

Takuro Spirit > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 08/23/2017 at 15:44

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Custom ones exist.... not sure if any OEMs would ever, though there is a market for families with lots of kids that also need a truck with a bed, and not a SUV.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Takuro Spirit 08/23/2017 at 15:47

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One of these pulled into the gas station yesterday while I was fueling up. Man it was funny watching him try to maneuver it. Also, he was probably the only person there with worse fuel economy than me.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 08/23/2017 at 15:48

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Centurion did them for a long time. Both off of normal cabs and with cut down vans.

https://www.louisianasportsman.com/lpca/index.php?section=classifieds&event=view&action=single_ad&id=384400

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1466060-centurion-e350.html

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > Takuro Spirit 08/23/2017 at 15:49

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I know there are custom ones...I was more specifically talking about the OEMs. Guess I should have been more clear

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 08/23/2017 at 15:54

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Yup...I should have been more clear. I was talking about OEMs specifically.

HammerheadFistpunch > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 08/23/2017 at 15:55

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Saw this the other day. Took up nearly 2 full spots.

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > HammerheadFistpunch 08/23/2017 at 15:57

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Those are nuts. I can’t imagine ever trying to take one into the city. Hell, I wouldn’t want to take my truck into a city and it only has 4 doors.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 08/23/2017 at 15:57

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In times before, I would have said less likely from an OEM - just because third-party groups existed, and makers were willing to partner with them. If the Centurion ridiculocabs had ever *really* taken off, then more dealerships would have been selling them *with* maker endorsement rather than just casually. The Centurion Bronco was fully endorsed, I think, more so than the longcabs.

With scaling back of custom van and custom truck coachbuilding, it’s more likely to see it from an OEM if you see it at all - which *is* interesting.

HammerheadFistpunch > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 08/23/2017 at 15:58

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I mean...If you have 5+ kids and a 5th wheel though...what do you do?

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > HammerheadFistpunch 08/23/2017 at 15:59

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Don’t buy a fifth wheel?

Chariotoflove > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 08/23/2017 at 16:00

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What if they put that third row back into the bed space to keep the overall vehicle from getting too long? And then, cover the bed space, kinda bring it into the cabin, so that you’d have a bit less storage than a truck bed, but it’d be protected from weather and stuff and could be environmentally controlled. And they could put a hatch on the back of this space to make it easily accessible.

Yeah, then you’d have something unique. A whole new class of truck. I bet someone could even come up with a cool acronym to name it.

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 08/23/2017 at 16:02

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Didn’t the coach built ones add another 50% to the price of the vehicle though? Unless you had money to blow or absolutely needed it, that was probably a really hard pill to swallow. OEMs could probably do it for something like a 10% adder, which would probably appeal to a lot more people. I’m still not sure how popular they would actually be.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > Chariotoflove 08/23/2017 at 16:04

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Pure genius. Why has no one thought of this before?

Chariotoflove > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 08/23/2017 at 16:07

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I really should learn to patent these gems before I release them to the public.

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > Chariotoflove 08/23/2017 at 16:07

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I almost typed this out lol. I was about to add something saying the step after that they could cover the rear and we’d come full circle and have Excursions again.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 08/23/2017 at 16:08

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That’s always the trick for something that doesn’t really exist on the market aside from specialty work, or hasn’t been prolific in decades. No “animal spirit” trends to figure out what to market it as, what to design it for *exactly*, and how to get into your customer’s head. Take for example the risk of getting back into the ute market for anybody in the US. Past behavior indicates that ute customers - contrary to expectation - are largely not the exact same as small truck customers, have their own expectations, have owned multiple utes, and when no utes are on the market, they buy... what? It’s been hard to establish. It’s a fact that the Ute Customer exists, but how many, where, how do we reach them, why do they like utes, what will they pay, and what do they want? Niche markets are a bitch like that.

That’s even setting aside the difficulty of predicting how much of a “created market” you’d get from people who otherwise wouldn’t have had interest until they knew what you had existed.

Chariotoflove > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 08/23/2017 at 16:10

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Team work, bro. :)

TDIGuy > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 08/23/2017 at 16:12

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I actually saw a 3 door excursion the other day. I’m assuming it was custom as well but I wonder if it had 4 rows of seats ?

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Chariotoflove 08/23/2017 at 16:16

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You’re wise beyond your years

marshknute > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 08/23/2017 at 16:21

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Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they never stoped to think if they should.

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > marshknute 08/23/2017 at 16:25

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WAIT! Does that grill say ORLOVED backwards?!

marshknute > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 08/23/2017 at 16:27

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OH MY GAWD, IT DOES!!!

Autophile412 - what's the world got in store? > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 08/23/2017 at 16:29

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My son was just saying this to me yesterday as we were driving. “Dad, how cool would it be if your truck had one more row of seats like moms car. You could have three rows and a truck bed to haul my dirt bike. That would be so cool.”

Oh the mind of an 8 year old.

ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 08/23/2017 at 16:29

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A suburban has three rows, and pretty much a short bed’s worth of space behind the 3rd row.

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com 08/23/2017 at 16:55

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But then things you haul are inside the truck ewww

shop-teacher > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 08/23/2017 at 17:10

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I know someone who would buy one. A buddy of mine has 4 kids and regularly tows a big camper. He came very close to pulling the trigger on a custom 6-door 3-row Super Duty.

Saracen > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 08/23/2017 at 17:16

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You might as well get a big ass Suburban at that point. A 3/4 ton truck with a sub-6 foot bed?!

SeaMonkey271 > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 08/23/2017 at 18:13

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Yeah, make that a solution to keep the crossover epidemic in check. As a matter of fact, why not 3-row sedans, GTs, or hell, even a 3-row sports car (odd but promising)?

ranwhenparked > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 08/23/2017 at 19:09

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Why not have a full-sized 3rd row seat, with captains’ chairs in the middle? You could encroach on the bed quite a bit, put a hard metal lid over it, and still have room for a couple sets of golf clubs.

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 08/23/2017 at 20:13

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Yeah then you have the Avalanche type weird bed thing.

Carbon Fiber Sasquatch > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 08/23/2017 at 20:19

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This is really only a matter of time

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > ranwhenparked 08/23/2017 at 21:22

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My thinking was a full sized third row means either a really long truck or a tiny bed. The half size row seemed like a good compromise since the third row probably wouldn’t be used that often by most people

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > Saracen 08/23/2017 at 21:28

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Yea but what about that one time a year I need to haul something tall?

ranwhenparked > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 08/23/2017 at 21:30

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The other idea would be to move the third row into the bed, and cover it all with a hardtop cap with side windows.

Demon-Xanth knows how to operate a street. > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 09/18/2017 at 16:51

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They need to limo seat it so the middle is facing backwards.